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I visit Digg a lot, as any self-respecting Internet junkie should. I also thought the first Transformers movie was pretty horrendous, as most self-respecting nerds of the 80's should. I find myself constantly being surprised, then, that nearly every piece of information on the Transformers sequel, no matter how small or irrelevant, always ends becoming popular on the site. 

New set pics? Dugg.

Speculation about the title? Dugg. 

Rainn Wilson will be in it? Dugg.

I'm not trying to pick on Digg, of course -- if anything, Digg does a great job for acting as the general will of the Internet-people -- but in the pervasive and inconceivable lust for a sequel that hasn't come out yet, to a film which sucked really hard.

I mean, yeah, the fights were kind of interesting (if really difficult to make out given Bay's shakycam and the too-detailed CGI), but Jesus -- how could any self-respecting Transformers fan be happy with a plot where Optimus Prime plays second banana to Shia fucking LeBouf? Hell, third banana, if you count Bumblebee? Where Megatron doesn't show up until the very end, and isn't even killed by Optimus? Where we spend the majority of two and a half hours -- two and a half hours -- hanging out with boring-ass human characters when all we really want to see is Optimus Prime kicking the crap out of Starscream?

Both as a fan of the original series and as an appreciator of decent films, I literally couldn't find more than one or two things I actually liked about Transformers. I know I cannot be alone in this.

Why, then, is there such hubbub about every irrelevant piece of news on Transformers 2? Do we honestly believe that the presence of Rainn Wilson will somehow make up for Anthony Anderson's -- I repeat, Anthony Anderson's -- supporting role in the first one? Will some neat set pics or a potential Asian locale make up for the fact that Michael Bay will still be directing it, which means the characters will still be flat and boring and the action clumsily shot? How can we possibly bring ourselves to be excited about a film which, given everything we know, will probably be a pile of total shit?

With the exception of superhero movies, we all know that sequels always suck more than their predecessors. It's a fact, unless we're talking about Spider-Man or James Cameron is involved or something. It is an equally well-known fact that Michael Bay cannot make good movies. When you combine these two terms, "Michael Bay" and "sequel," should that not set off some sort of "this movie will be shit" alarm in all our nerdy, film-loving heads? 

I mean, this is usually the part where, in order to cover my ass, I say something like: "Look, if Transformers 2 ends up being a good movie, I'll happily apologize and eat my words." But I literally cannot conceive of any possible scenario in which the sequel will be anywhere near what we might call a decent film. The first flick made enough money that Bay is probably convinced that he doesn't need to change anything about the way he makes films. People will pay to see robots fight other robots, even if they have to sit through two hours of people who aren't robots engaging in completely boring interpersonal conflict. 

I have no personal solution to this problem, outside of just praying that people eventually stop caring about a movie that will eventually suck in roughly the same way battered women still consider their abusive husbands "nice guys," but that's obviously impractical. Being the pretentious, self-centered blogger that I am, I can only hope -- hope that Transformers 2 is either the greatest film ever made and that I be proven wrong, or that it's so bad that no one ever dare utter the word "Transformers" again without shuddering from the deepest, darkest parts of their robot-loving hearts.

Transformers 2 will suck.

Stop caring about it. 

Comments

thisfuckinguy on 06/20 02:23am
I am with you , that movie sucked more balls than a 1 dollar hooker .
TJ Flynn on 06/20 12:36pm
I disagree, and based on the money Transformers made and the academy award nomination, I'd say a lot of people would disagree with you. Michael Bay isn't the best director, but you need to stop watching South Park if you think his movies are that horrible, because that cartoon is clearly brain-washing you. I mean honestly, Armageddon wasn't that bad, and I won't comlain about seeing Jessica Biel in a wet t-shirt in his production of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. I can't wait until Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen comes out, in fact, I check this website just about every other day for updates: http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/

Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen will rock.

Care about it.
thisfuckinguy on 06/20 1:05pm
What an impassioned statment about the love one man has for Transformers . Well Pirates made alot of money and that movie was riduclous. Where as Fargo made shit but what an awesome movie so you cant always tie a movies box office draw to its quality . I think Micheal ( lets blow some shit up ) Bay is cool on a popcorn movie level ,but i stil dont think this movie warrants a sequal .
legendver2 on 06/20 4:38pm
opinion =/= fact
thisfuckinguy on 06/20 6:36pm
I WIN
thisfuckinguy on 06/20 6:50pm
WAIT A MINUTE , WHAT THE HELL DOES SOUTH PARK HAVE TO DO WITH MICHEAL BAY ?????
TJ Flynn on 06/21 1:16pm
Apparently you don't watch the greatest cartoon ever, the emmy award winning South Park, so I won't warrant that question with an answer. Transformers was still nominated for an academy award, and considering it was a blow 'em up popcorn movie, that's pretty impressive. Michael Bay is perfect for Transformers, he took a toy turned 80's cartoon and turned it into one of the biggest blockbusters in 2007, and still holds a top-20 spot for one of the largest grossing films of all-time. Any action movie that's backed by fanbase as large as Transformers, and makes that much money, always deserves a sequel. Also, your name is thisfuckinguy, based on that I'm guessing you're a simpleton and I refuse to put any credence to what you say, we'll leave it at that.
shawn on 06/21 3:57pm
to the guy that said he doesn't think transformers warrants a sequel: when something is financially lucrative, it is going to be copied again and again until it is no longer good business. whether or not you thought the first movie was of good quality, don't say it doesn't deserve a sequel when it broke records. that's just silliness. you think the studio execs who greenlight this shit go "hmm, i dunno about a sequel. the 'die-hard' internet fans who make up 2% of the viewing audience aren't overly excited."

to the guy who wrote this whose major point is "stop caring about this movie bc it will suck", i have one question. are you going to see it in theaters? even if the answer is no, do you realize there's no such thing as bad attention except no attention. the mere fact that you just spent a decent amount of time banging out an essay about how bad the franchise sucks is proof that there's buzz going around and buddy, you just contributed to that buzz. if you don't like something, don't go see it and stop bitching about it online. transformers wasn't an oscar winning film by any means but it was exactly what it was supposed to be: a summer blockbuster with monumental special effects and action sequences with a small amoung of character development but just enough to make you care about the characters a little bit. it wasn't a direct remake of the cartoon but that doesn't make it complete shit. if i went in the theater and saw a robot movie with an oscar winning plot and deeply complex characters, i would be fucking confused.
jwax8242o on 06/21 9:16pm
it was entertaining enough but

i agree with: really difficult to make out given Bay's shakycam and the too-detailed CGI

not sure you can fix that without making it worse.
mossman93 on 06/21 9:39pm
The first movie was great and the second one will be at least as good. I've loved Transformers since I was a child and I think Michael Bay did just about the best job someone could do with this IP. To the guy who said "opinion =/= fact". Fact has no place in whether a movies is good. It's completely up to the individual watching it. Sure there are movie that are universally held to be bad or good, but there are still people who like those movies and there's nothing wrong with that. I never expected Transformers to be a life changing triumph of the human soul. I just expected to be a fun movie to watch with my friends who also loved Transformers and that what Michael Bay and company gave me.
MooCow1989 on 06/21 9:43pm
Here's the thing that everyone must realize. Yes; the characters from the show are beloved icons. Yes; the toys were awesome. Yes; the fan base is bigger than the Vatican. But 1. The show is from the 80's. And 2. The cartoon was not all that great either. Most of the voice acting sucked, the editing was almost nonexistent and the animation was...... well from the 80's. So I believe that Michael Bay did a fairly decent job of taking this franchise and bringing it to the new era. He isn't all that bad, seriously take a look at some of his movies. Armageddon had become a classic in certain ways. So the movie will have a sequel get over it. If you don't like it; don't see it. If you really need a Tranformers movie go see the animated movie from 1986.
mattjumbo on 06/22 00:04am
You guys are frightening. Transformers was a cartoon to push toys. Or maybe the toys were made to push the cartoon. Doesn't really matter. It was a poorly animated cartoon and if you hadn't been a child when you watched it, you would never have liked it at all. Because, of course, only a child would become engaged in something that simple and utterly meaningless.

I'm not crapping on you because you liked Transformers as a kid, there is a ton of stuff I liked as a kid that I now realize is complete garbage. Your nostalgia is blinding you to common sense.

You expected Hollywood to take a crappy, cheesy 80s cartoon and produce what exactly? A serious, adult drama? An Oscar nominee? World-changing political commentary?

They took a crappy, cheesy 80s cartoon and produced a crappy, cheesy 00s movie. What else did you possibly expect?
arnoldez on 06/22 00:30am
To each his own, but in my opinion, this franchise, under Michael Bay's direction, does no justice to the original series. Yeah, I agree, the original series was shaky at best, with very little plot and silly 80's animation, but honestly what animated TV series from our childhood era did deserve any sort of award? They're cartoons, they're supposed to be simple and fun, for children. As we grow up with the cartoon in our heads, we give it quality it probably never had to begin with, and for a film to be successful (and by successful I mean pleasurable to watch, not profitable), the creators of the movie are going to have to add in a lot of quality and still stick with the original quirky antics of the original series. The Ninja Turtles films did this (both the live action and animated films), the latest Batman series does this, and most of the superhero movies do (I realize that a lot of these are originally from comics turned cartoons, but you get my point). Transformers fails in this aspect as a film. I wanted to cry when I saw the first one. Luckily, I didn't spend ten dollars at the theatres to see it and instead waited to rent it for free with my Blockbuster Online free trade-in.

Armageddon - sucked.
Bad Boys - sucked.
Pearl Harbor - sucked.
The Island - sucked.

I know I'll get burned for saying all of this, but not one of those films had any quality to them at all. They were all just overbudgeted pieces of shit. My only hope is that they kick Michael Bay off in the next 10 years and restart the series, like they did with Batman. Hell, maybe they'll even get Christian Bale involved.
legendver2 on 06/22 00:32am
sorry, my opinion=/=fact was directed to the author of the article
scrubsfanatic on 06/22 00:39am
So it makes alot of money that doesn't mean anything. Here are two movies that did not make a lot of money, but are considered good: The Wizard of Oz, and Fight Club. You know what movie made a lot of money, but sucked besides Transformers? Godzilla: 2000, Cloverfeild was also bad.
Evan3168 on 06/22 01:42am
you really dont present any valid or cogent arguments on why transformers one sucked and why transformers 2 sucked. you bring up things you hated about it but you barely justify it. in doing this this article comes off as junky, whiny and completely useless.
GwydionErie on 06/22 01:58am
First off, the people who think Armageddon is some kind of new classic should not be included in any serious discussion about movies. It was schlocky crap at it's ADD infected, shallow-character, cliched worst. It was not a good movie whatsoever. Even the F/X have aged poorly.

Second, Michael Bay is a hack. Plain and simple. Arnoldez did a good job summarizing his resume. That being said, Transformers was not "that bad". Transformers is my generation, and as someone mentioned, he did as well as he could with the material. It had a nice sense of wonder and excitement, almost like the first time I saw the TV show as a kid. Too bad Transformers was about 30 minutes too long and didn't jettison the embarrassing stereotypes. They have racial profiling on Cybertron? Also, pimping GM automobiles added a 2+ hour commercial element to the proceedings. Not fun.

I think the only reason it came out as good as it did is Mr. Spielberg. The editorial didn't like the human element, which was my favorite part. Turturro was absolutely nutso, like he came in from "Miller's Crossing" on speed. Shia did OK, although Megan Fox was the token hot chick (YAWN). So it was Bay's best movie, which means it was a C+.

So, in summary, I am not excited about the sequel. But relax!
kazark on 06/22 02:45am
“Internet-people – but” = internet people-butt.

“...James Cameron is involved”, abyss was cool – titanic was shit, james camron may as well change his name to ron howard because he is just another one of hollywoods dirty love children.

“Pearl harbour 2” is all I want. “911” with ben affleck of shia. can't see the planes - too shaky... didn't happent.

BTW IMHO I will watch trasformers 2... I might even pay for it... maybe.
MooCow1989 on 06/22 03:18am
I'm done arguing over the fact of if Transformers was good or not. That is simply a matter that will be left to opinion. All I want is to stop this constant bashing of Michael Bay. He may no be the best director, but he isn't horrible. And we cannot talk as if all of the faults lie with him. Remember that the script has to be written, and that was done by another person. And the producers were most likely at fault as well. Stop making Bay into your scapegoat and get over your insanely high expectations.
AnalJustice on 06/22 05:38am
Anthony, are you mad that your childhood play toys aren't turning out to be the big, cool lalas you envisioned them to be?

I can manure my lawn with the contents of this article..
mr.vandemar on 06/22 07:59am
In the first movie, a whole military base gets ripped to shreds by the bad guys. In the very next scene, the same evil robots can't take out a few straglers in the desert. Why? Because those humans were important, so irrational shit happens to keep them alive.

Just like when megatron is chasing shia at the end he rips through the roof like tisuepaper before monoluging. He was right on Shias ass before he started climbing the ten flights of stairs to get to the roof. I guess megatron took some kind of robot nap while a slow little fragle human runs away with only the most important object in the universe...run up the stairs of a ten story building and think about how long that took you. Now ask yourself if you think it was faster than megatron could do it.

Every robot looks the same apart from uptimus and I guess bumblebee. When they fight it looks like some erects guy had to much fun with partical erects and then called the mass of moving parts a robot fight.

I saw the trailers and I was excited for this movie. I sat down determined to enjoy it. I still came out thinking it was shifty.
TJ Flynn on 06/22 12:23pm
You guys can nit-pick it all you want, but the bottom line is... it made a lot of money and remains in the top-20 all-time grossing films, it was nominated for an academy award (yes mattjumbo, that would be an oscar), and its fanbase greatly exceeds all the simpletons who feel the need to bash it.

You can't argue with facts...

mr.vandemar, the military base was attacked by two robots, while the village in Qatar was attacked by only one robot. Which, I may add, was a lot smaller and less effective than the other robot who attacked the military base.

The fanboys in this argument need to chill out, sorry Bay didn't use stop motion filming with the original toys.
themxtr on 06/22 2:23pm
umm, i think i speak for every heterosexual man(or lesbian) when i say, "who the fuck cares about fighting robots? two words: MEGAN FUCKING FOX." ok, three words. the only reason i saw 1 and the only reason i will see 2 is so i can spend two and a half hours oogling and drooling over the wonder that is Mrs. Fox. Fuck robots.
thisfuckinguy on 06/23 03:25am
still sucked
DirtyJersian on 06/26 01:01am
I agree with you 100%. I pride myself in being a film geek, and when my non-geek friends discuss Transformers like it's on par with Gone With The Wind I get mad. Sure I dug the flick. It had explosions, Megan Fox, giant robots and Megan Fox, so my natural male instinct is to love it. Just because I liked the movie doesn't mean I didn't find glaring problems with it. The plot holes were so blatant! Why the fuck did the final battle take place in a metropolitan city? It makes NO SENSE. Sure I'm going to like Transformers 2, but I won't say it's going to be a "good" movie by any means. Definitely a fun watch though.
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